Monday, February 4, 2008

The Library of Babel

Reading for tonight--
"Fumes the memorious," "Theme of the Hero and the Traitor," and "Death and Compass"--due for Wednesday.

As for the blog--

What about World No.3--who creates? Why is it shaped in a unique manner?

OR

Write about the creature with eyes in his hands--why, oh why?

Lastly, very nice job in class today...well done and keep up the good work.

4 comments:

Elizabeth Gearreald said...

I think that World 3 is the world that combines all of the worlds together. If world 1 is the experience and world 2 is the inexperience, then world 3, the world of imagination, of creation, is what makes these two put together. I disagree that you can entirely get rid of world 2. it is impossible because even if you could experience everything in the world, there would still be some things you didn't know that you did not know that you had not experienced. This is why I don't think a world could be eliminated entirely. World 3 is what ties them together though. World 3 is developed from what we have experienced, and what we know we have not experienced. That is why it is shaped in a unique manner, because the experiences, the paths of the labrynth, they sometimes cross, but the entire path itself is what is unique. No other person will experience the exact experiences as another, therefore world 1 will be different, and also, I could also not know the same 2nd world that another does. This is why the 3rd world that is shaped in our heads from these first two differs so much from person to person. No two people think exactly alike, and therefore we are all creating a different third world. Uqbar and the Ficciones are both part of Borges' 3rd world. They are his creation, and they are unique. If Ficciones is to be considered a labrynth, then both are the 3rd world. But the third world is also a way in and out of the labrynth, as well as his book. As for any book, if it does not expose the reader to a labrynth and help lead them in or out of one, then it is pointless. Yet the message is that we have to create our own world, our own labrynth, and our own key. I ask myself at this point: am I making my own third world at this very moment? And of course I do not know the answer, quite possibly because I am already in the middle of the labrynth that I have created for myself and I have not yet created the key or the door. What I have just typed has even come from the third world, because it has been created from my mind. Yet I still do not feel I adequately know exactly what my own third world is, yet I believe it is something that I will have to seek out on my own. This is what makes world 3 unique; the individual creating it must discover it for themself. No outside being can trace the path.

Anonymous said...

World three is whatever we want it to be. We create and shape it with our experiences. Our imagination and the things that have made us who we are, is what this world is. It’s a fictional place merely a figment of our imagination. So why is it so important and so unique? Because it’s the only trueness in our lives. No matter what, it is what it is. Whatever has happened in your life the third world will imitate it, it doesn’t lie. It is life. When the little girl makes her imagined place she is illuminated in her fears and coated in a sense of vulnerability. This is so because it is truth. Her third world is her fears. No matter how many flowers she tries to think of she’s forced into a heartless place. The third world has an infinite number of possibilities or it can have no possibilities. It is what your imagination chooses to create. As good or as bad as it is, it’s your life journey, it’s the twisty roads and dead ends that build us up or break us down. This world is filled with possibilities and will be whatever you create. This world is unique because it is your own. Only you can enter it and you are the one who creates it. It is specialized to your experiences. Only you can create it and only you can dismantle it.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the girls before me that World 3 is a world of imagination and not just imagination but our imagination. It's shaped in a unique manner because of the point Beth made that each person is different and no person is alike so the world we create is our imaginations are all going to vary from each other. However, I do think World 1, our experiences, effect and shape World 2. In the movie, she's (does the girl have a name? I thought her name was Pan but someone told me it wasn't) in this time of war and she's going through horrible experiences so when she steps into World 3 and let's her imagination take over, she is given a monster. Her experiences shape her thoughts and what's in her mind so when she crawls into her mind she is given what is shaping her World 1. I don't think there's anyway for us to go into World 3 without having the experiences we have in World 1 shape what happens. As humans, I don't think we can ever just forget about something, we consume our thoughts with it. I know when something significant is going on in my life, that's all my thoughts revolve around and even when I try to let it go and when I'm in bed laying awake (I have sleeping troubles) and I try to just let go and think, I can't just forget what's going on around me and go to a happy place. So when Pan (I'm just going to call her that until I know her real name) goes into World 3, she ends up only portraying what's really going on in World 1 except in a much more unrealistic and fantasy type way. Even though, we create World 3, in the end, it's not only us creating it; it's our experiences too.

EGottlob said...

The creature in the movie is the fusion of the girl’s (I wish I knew her name) three worlds. Her experiences shaped the way the creature looked, because it could have been something really, really ridiculously good looking, or something nice, but it wasn’t. This not only shows something about her World 1, but also about World 2. What is it that she is afraid of, outside of her experiences? It could be that she is afraid of herself, and this creature is the equivalent of her looking in the mirror and examining herself, and that’s one scary reflection.

I mentioned, not real clearly in class, how I saw the fact that the creature had his eyes in his hands as symbolizing the subconscious way we connect the Worlds 1, 2 and 3. Our immediate perceptions from experiences found in World 1, and how we see World 2 are actually not that different from the imaginary perceptions of World 3. The creature sees with his hands, the same hands that create whatever he needs to, so these two things become one act combined. He is subconsciously connecting his perception of the world that comes with the sight, to the creating of this World 3 that’s shaped partly by this sight. In terms of our experiences, we often do the same by seeing something, and without thinking, create a perception of it even in the back of our mind. We also perceive outside events of World 2 how we want to, and this shapes World 3 as well. This information from Worlds 1 and 2 is just one building block in the creation of our World 3. Our perceptions and these experiences are needed to create our creature, or else there would be no basis for its existence.

In the broader sense, our own “creatures” represent this combination of the three worlds for all of us, whether it is a good creature, or a bad one. As disturbing as it is, we all need our own creatures to serve as reflections of our thoughts about these three worlds. It’s not much of a reflection if your “creature” is a pleasant one, and it pretty much has to be bad, because if it isn’t then it means you have no fears, insecurities, other emotions, etc. I just do not believe that some don’t have some sort of little creature that reminds them of something negative, because there are flaws in all of us. This isn’t to say that we all imagine some (honestly words cannot describe this freaky thing) gross creature when we put all of our worlds together. Our own creatures may not have taken a certain bodily form yet, and they may never, but the thoughts involved still create a symbolic or physical “creature”.

Our World 3 is only created when we want it to be; since it is a fantasy, then it does not exist unless we say it does. In this way our creatures do not exist unless we want them to, even though it appears that we would never want them to exist. It’s an unfortunate thing that we all have this “creature” in our heads that haunts us, but we need it to learn from our other two worlds. We cannot put what we learn in to use in World 3, since it’s not real, but we can put it to use in Worlds 1 and 2. It’s strange that in this fictional world we find truth. In this world of our fantasy and choosing, we can find a being that we subconsciously create, and do not want there, and haunts this world, but still needs to exist.


In this way, I can believe that only the thinkers can possess true “creatures”, because they have the power to create one in their mind, while people of action do not have the same ability. This is just another way which people of thought can be considered sick, and this creature is just another symptom of their sickness.

This creature is the ugly, honest embodiment of the sickness of our thoughts. If we do not let this affect us, than it won’t, but once we let it affect us, it’s hard to control it. This is like the girl in Pan’s Labyrinth. She has the (I cannot think of what it’s called, so I will just call it a timer) and this represents the time she has before her door, the door that represents the tunnel from her first two worlds to World 3, closes. While she must experience some time in World 3, there is a time limit for a reason, because she cannot stay there as long as she wants, or she will be permanently stuck in World 3, in her imagination. However, even though time expires, she finds her way out by making another door, and thus creating the tunnel that leads her back out of World 3 an in to her own real experiences of World 1. This shows that while we can spend some of our time in World 3, imagining things, at some point we must return to World 1 or we will be trapped inside our own imaginations with no sense of reality and no way to learn from our creatures.

Our own creatures are ugly representations of ourselves, but they are the mirror images of us when all of our flaws are exposed outwardly. We may not like these creatures, and they may be horribly ugly, but we need to take some time to look at them, because the only way we learn the truth about ourselves and our own reality is by escaping from this reality in to another world where we are our only judges. We may think that our creatures are disgusting looking, but in this World 3 we create, we want it this way. Each and every piece of this creature is there for a reason, carefully sculpted from our experiences and experiences outside of us. If one piece, one ugly feature of this creature were missing, then it would not fully represent us and our three worlds. We should embrace our creatures for what they are, no matter how gross looking, because they are only representative of ourselves. We cannot change our creatures from our imaginary world without changing something about ourselves in the real worlds. Sometimes it takes a good hard look at something disturbing to cause the biggest reaction, and this is one thing the creature from Pan’s Labyrinth does, and our own creatures must do as well.

PS- If we could give the creature any name, I would name it Gulliver, or Gully for short…or Juan Carlos V. That’s completely outside the point, but I’m sick of calling it “the creature” and I needed a name to give it, and I think it deserves one too.